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TRANSPORTATION

Bus Routes and Stops

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If a high school student misses the high school bus, can they take the middle school bus in? Thanks!

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Only if there is room on the bus and in genuine emergency situations. Prior approval from the transportation office is required. This exception is on limited basis only.

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I am little curious about the bus schedules. My child was sent a letter stating what time the bus would arrive.(the exact time as it has been coming for several years) But the bus has consistently arrived 6 min. early, then the children are forced to sit on the bus and wait for 10 to 15min. before they are allowed to enter the high school. When most of the high school students are getting on the bus in the dark during the winter months wouldn't it seem to be beneficial for the bus schedule to be adapted so that the students are picked up a little later and then the waiting on the bus is eliminated?

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Bus schedules are not exact. The time of pick-up or drop-off can vary depending on traffic, students late for the bus, etc.

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Will transportation information be sent to childcare centers and providers before the start of the school year?

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We send busing information to parents. Parents should advise their daycare provider on bus schedules.

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Why do high school students get dropped off from the busses at 7:10 when homeroom starts at 7:40?

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We need the buses back to pick up elementary and then middle school.

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What is the maximum time for busing to and from school. My middle school child has a pick up time of 7:35 am for a 8:55 start - I find it absolutely crazy that she will be on the bus for an hour and 10 minutes. I do not understand how Shen can get children to private and public school all over the state but cannot get my child 7 miles in under and hour and a half.

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Maximum ride times are not listed in any policy, but our goal is to minimize ride times to the best degree we can. Middle school students are dropped of at 8:40 a.m. (not 8:55). Your best bet is to contact he Transportation Director to determine if a shorter ride time is possible.

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It is my understanding that adults must be at the bus stop to put a kindergartener on and off the bus. What is the policy for the rest of the elementary kids?

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We only ask that a parent meet kindergarten students.

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Is there any way to change the bus routes, because my child has an extremely long bus ride. She lives three minutes from the school and her bus ride is 50 minutes long. Her bus is overcrowded even without guests and its hard to even get a seat.

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Requests for bus stop changes or review of routes should be made to the transportation department and will be reviewed throughout the first few weeks of school.  Parents should not expect to be contacted about such requests until the end of September or early October and students should use the assigned stop/route until notification of a possible change is made.

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 How far should a Kindergartener have to walk to a bus stop?

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Kindergarten students may be asked to walk up to .2 of a mile to a bus stop.

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My child will be going to one of the middle schools next year.  The bus stop for middle school students on our street is one that we cannot see from our house (2 streets away).  What is the policy for having bus stops in a place where you cannot see your child? Isn't it dangerous to have students waiting at a bus stop where parents cannot see them?

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The policy is that bus stops for middle school students will be placed within 3/10 of a mile from the students home.

 

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Does the state require that schools bus all students?  Many students live very close to schools and should be walking, thus saving the district money.  Other states do not bus students within a 1 mile radius of school.  If this state requires it, maybe they should look into changing things.

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There are specific minimum guideline stipulated by the state, generally within a 1.5 mile radius. However, because of the lack of appropriate sidewalks, coupled with severe weather concerns, the district provides transportation for a large majority of students. Simply, it is about safety and the safe passage of students to and from school. The district has applied for and received a grant from the NYS DOT for approximately $480,000 to construction trails on campus in order to promote biking or walking to school. Hopefully, that will have a notable impact on the transportation of students.

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Do you need a note to be able to ride another students bus in the morning?

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Approved bus passes are required to ride any other bus than the bus assigned.

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Can students ever be prohibited from riding the bus if they are constantly causing problems?  Are "warnings" given to students/parents if problems continue?  What is Shen's policy on this?

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Please see Code of Conduct - Policy 3410A.  There is a busing section.  Students can be barred from riding the bus, warnings are given and parents are involved.

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Can a middle schooler take the middle school bus if he takes an accelerated tech class in the morning when there is a delay?

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Middle school students may ride the middle school bus on delay days when they normally come in early on high school buses for accelerated classes.

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Are sixth graders allowed on elementary buses?

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No. If 6th graders need to come in early they need to ride the high school bus that services their neighborhood. They will be dropped off or transferred to the middle school before 8:00.

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What is the LEGAL number of children allowed to ride in one seat on a large school bus? Is it 3 or four?

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Three.

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Do you have a bus orientation for incoming kindergarten students who have never ridden on a bus before? If so, when is this and what is it like?

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Yes, but each school handles it differently. Your best bet is to contact your child's school to find out the details.

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I heard that middle school children can take the high school bus in the morning to school, is this true?  Would they be dropped off at the middle school?  Do they have to be attending classes or a club?

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Middle school students may ride in on a High School bus if they are taking an early class and have notified the transportation department.

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If you are picking up your child at dismissal do you need to send a note in saying they are not riding the bus?

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If it is before the bell rings, then yes, you need a note. If it is after-school (after the bell rings), then no, you don't need a note.

 

What's allowed on buses

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Why are cell phones not allowed on the bus? You may need to contact a parent or friend about something, so why are they not allowed?

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They are not specifically prohibited unless they become a distraction to the bus driver.  For instance music playing on phones,  movie downloads that cause students to gather and cause a distraction, etc.

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Our son is in band. His afternoon bus driver said that he can not bring his bell kit on the bus. The bells are in a bag about the size of a back pack. The driver told him one of us has to pick him up from school. We are both working parents & can not take time off from work every Friday to pick up our son. This is something that should have been told to the parents before the parents decide to let there child join band. If we have to pick up our son will have to pull him out of band! That is not fair to a 5th grader! What should be our next step?

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You can tell the bus driver that the bells (percussion kit) is allowed according to the director of transportation. Here is the actual policy that can be found in the transportation handbook and in the elementary handbook that is provided to all parents.

"Any item that the child will be bringing to school should be packed in a carrying case, such as a tote bag or backpack, which must be small enough to be held on the student’s lap. Large items and food for class parties may not be transported by school bus. New York State Department of Transportation and federal regulations PROHIBIT bringing large items and musical instruments on school buses. This prevents the blockage of seats and aisles in the event of an accident. The following items are a partial list allowed on the bus if held on lap:  Piccolo, oboe, flute, soprano clarinet, bassoon, snare drum, alto saxophone, French horn, trumpet, violin, and viola. Large items are not allowed on the bus . these include, but are not limited to: Alto clarinet, bass clarinet, contra bass clarinet, trombone, baritone saxophone, cello, guitar, tenor saxophone, tuba, baritone horn, string bass, large school projects, skateboards, bikes, fishing poles, skis and poles, and sleds."

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I'm a senior and I ride one of the Shen buses in the morning, I had to bring food on the bus as part of a project for a class and was yelled at by the bus driver. She said that we are not allowed to bring any kind of food on the bus what so ever.

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Students may transport food on the bus but may not eat on the bus. You can contact the transportation department to discuss your concerns.

 

Late Buses

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I've searched on the Transportation page and was able to find Late Bus Routes, but I can't find what time these buses leave the school, so I can figure out about what time my son would get home.   Am I just missing it somewhere?  Thanks!

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Late buses leave Shen HS East at 4:00. They then proceed to West and then Koda/Acadia bus port. They are scheduled to leave that bus port at 4:15.

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Is it true that the late buses are only running 3 days per week?

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Yes. Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. Once it was determined that use of the after-school buses on Tuesday and Friday was much lower, that reduction was recommended in this year's budget as a way to save costs.

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Are there late buses available for after school activities at the elementary schools?

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Yes, as requested by the school Principals for specific programs.

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I thought as a parent and employee that late buses were for all after school activities.  It does not seem cost effective to use these buses for only kids for extra help.

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Late buses leave High School East at 4 p.m., pick up students at High School West and then on to the Acadia/Koda bus port to pick up middle school students by 4:15. WHILE THE BUSES ARE FOR STUDENTS WHO NEED EXTRA CLASSROOM HELP AFTERSCHOOL, any secondary student who stays after school for any reason is welcome to take the late bus home at that time.

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Why are the late buses at the middle school so early? They leave the school at 4:15.  That gives the after school club only 45 minutes.  There truly is no club that meets for only 45 minutes, it seems like there are more parents picking up and a lot of buses running empty wasting fuel.  Is it possible to make the buses later? To leave at 5 when most clubs and activities are over?

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The high school late bus runs depart at 4 p.m. They stop at the middle school to provide that service for middle school students.

 

Seating and Seat belts

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Why are some school buses crammed 3 children to a seat, while other buses have 1 child for every 3 seats? The crowding is terrible, and not fair.

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Some bus routes may have more children whose parents drive them to school, however, we still provide a "seat" in the event they chose to ride the bus.

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Every day I drive to work with school buses in front of me. Every day there are students in the back of the bus standing up. What is the school's policy on this?

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New York State law requires students to be seated while the bus is in motion.

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Why aren't the school bus drivers required to wear a seat belt?

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Bus drivers are legally required to wear seat belts at all times while operating their bus.   

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Why are seatbelt laws not enforced on buses? Why are some children sitting three to a seat due to overcrowding?

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The law permits districts to use seatbelts but does not mandate that students wear seatbelts on a school bus. Regarding  three to a seat, the bus capacity is based on three children to a seat.

 

Field trip buses

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Why does the district use charter buses sometimes for field trips instead of district buses?

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Charter buses are used, particularly for afternoon field trips, because we do not have enough bus drivers or buses in the afternoon to do trips and our afternoon bus runs.

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My child attended a field trip and part of the fee was to cover transportation costs. Do students who play on sports teams pay fees for transportation?

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Educational field trips and interscholastic athletics play an important role in the education of our students. Funds are provided annually in the budget to subsidize transportation costs for both. However, there are numerous requests each year for field trips and athletic contests above and beyond what is budgeted. That is the reason why transportation costs (particularly when it involves charter buses versus district-owned buses) are paid for through fundraising by the schools, PTA or athletic booster clubs or paid for by the parents.

 

Buses

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This morning as I drove on campus, the end bus, parked and unloading at Tesago had its lights on and stop signs out. I was driving on the main road and stopped when I saw the bus lights on. All the cars behind me were honking at me and the car in the other direction stopped, but eventually went. I assumed the bus driver waved him on, but I was unable to see. What is the policy with this? The other buses did not have their lights on - just the one on the end. This made me believe I should stop. However, kids exited the bus on the side away from the road and got right on the sidewalk. Maybe you can clarify this for me. Thanks.

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School buses are required to activate red lights whenever loading or unloading students.

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Hi just wondering if the new 66 passenger school buses will have L.E.D. 8 way warning lights?

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Yes.

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Why does Shen purchase 66 passenger buses rather than 72 passenger? Thanks

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They are more economical and fit better into small bus ports.

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Just out of curiosity, how much fuel do school buses require for one standard day of school for the entire school district?

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We don't have it per day but our district uses approximately 320,000 gallons of fuel annually.

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How many miles per gallon does a Shen school bus get?

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On average, a school bus gets between 6.5 - 7 miles per gallon.

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What happens to Shen buses after they are gotten rid of by the district.  I have seen them stripped of paint and markings over the summer.  Are they junked or sold to other districts?

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Used buses are traded in to the company that the district buys new buses from.

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Are there any cameras installed on the buses?  I saw what looks like one on my morning bus but I think it may be a "dummy" camera put there to make us think we're being recorded. I don't know either way but it makes me kind of uncomfortable.

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Yes. Sometimes we use cameras on buses.

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What does the district do with old/ outdated buses?

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They are traded in when we purchase new buses.

 

Bus Drivers and Aides

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My child came home telling me that the bus driver lets them listen to fly92 on the radio. What is going on here?

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Radios are on school buses are to used to occupy the students while in transit.  Bus drivers are trained to use appropriate radio stations only.  These kinds of concerns should be forwarded to the District transportation office immediately upon their occurrence so that they can look into and address these matters.

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Why aren't there aides on buses?

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To help monitor the buses we use video cameras (about half of our buses now have video cameras). Students should be encouraged to tell the bus driver if they are having problems on the bus. Parents can also call the transportation office or the school principal to report and problems.

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Why do we have bus aids? I have one on my bus in the morning and half the students are asleep in their seats.

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Bus aides are assigned to buses to assist in meeting specific needs for designated students.